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Joe Budden got into a heated argument with his podcast co-host Ish over an alleged man code violation that turned into a lengthy back-and-forth.
During a recent episode of The Joe Budden Podcast, Ish (real name Antwan Marby) called out the former Slaughterhouse rapper for linking up with his longtime ex-girlfriend, despite previously saying that former partners of his friends are off-limits.
“Any girl, I don’t give a fuck who she is, if I used to date her before, she could’ve been my girlfriend, n-gga, if she wanna give you some box, that’s her box to give,” Ish said. “I can’t police that box.”
Joe Budden replied: “Stop it, you better stop it. ‘Cause I’ll get that bazooka right out that closet. ‘Cause if that was the case then why would you ever be questioning me about why your ex was at my house?”
Budden went on to claim that Ish was “looking stupid” and out of breath based on his reaction to the situation.
“Now you flustered looking stupid,” he said. “It’s a dialogue. So your ex is at somebody’s house, it’s her pussy. Why you cursing and screaming? I’m your friend. I love you. I did not do that to you because I love you. Now, I can’t talk over you. Catch your breath.”
Ish then brought up comments Joe Budden previously made on the podcast and called him out for being a hypocrite.
“We had a conversation on what I would and wouldn’t do,” he said. “Joe said, ‘I would never do X, Y and Z.’ I started laughing. It was on the podcast. So Joe like, ‘What’s so funny?’ I’m saying, ‘Yo, you would do that.’ He said, ‘No, I wouldn’t.’ I said, ‘Yes, you would.’ You had my ex in your house filling her up with hookah.
“You said, ‘I wouldn’t entertain a n-gga’s ex.’ You not moving the goalposts today and we’re not getting into a screaming match. You all were here. Joe said, ‘I wouldn’t even talk to my man’s exes.’ I’m saying you lying because you have talked to my exes before.
“I didn’t say I gave a fuck, I was pointing out that you did it. That you were in your house with my ex-bitch of nine years smoking hookah. So you sitting here lying. I didn’t say I mind ’cause again, if she don’t mind, who the fuck am I to mind? She told me, ‘I never approached him.’ I ain’t give a fuck.”
Joe Budden claimed Ish was being “mad disrespectful” and clarified his stance on friends’ exes.
“Your girl of nine years never told you why she was there, and then you start questioning your man on a podcast and you’re mad respectful years later?” he said. “This is a dialogue.
“Maybe he misunderstood me. What I said here, which is I wouldn’t fuck one of y’all exes, I wouldn’t try to fuck one of y’all exes, that’s the same thing I’m saying now. Joe Budden would not entertain and would feel uncomfortable conducting conversation with any of y’all exes.
“So if a conversation happened with one of y’all exes, there had to be a way that she finagled that to happen, right? And if she finagled that to happen, she probably was trying to finagle something else, right? Girlfriend of nine years.”
He added: “She managed to tell you none of anything, so Joe is very consistent in what he’s saying.”
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Bowling For Soup and Frank Turner say they are certain they will eventually record music together.
The pop punk favourites and the singer songwriter will be touring together across Australia and the UK throughout May, June and July for a series of co headlining shows. They also came close to recording a track together for Bowling For Soup’s upcoming twelfth studio album.
Lead singer Jaret Reddick told ContactMusic.com: "We had actually talked about doing a track together for the new [BFS] album.
"I was working on songs during a really hectic period for Frank. We had planned this perfect day where he would stop by the studio. He did show up, but we ended up just spending time together and catching up instead, with no expectations.
"I feel like if we had tried to finish something just to release it before the tours, it probably would not have come out the way we wanted.
"I do believe that at some point down the line we are both sure we will create something together."
Frank and Jaret have already worked side by side in the studio before on the track Drunk As It Takes, which appeared on the BFS frontman’s country album.
Frank reflected: "There is something special about country songwriting that I think we both really admire.
"There is a real honesty and straightforwardness to it that I think both of us naturally bring into our own music, no matter what style we are working in."
Even though Frank is not featured on the new record, Jaret did share some insight into Bowling For Soup’s forthcoming album, which gained momentum after they recorded Holding Onto That Hate last summer while testing equipment for audio company SSL.
He explained: "They were looking for a band to come in and record a track to test out some new studio equipment. It ended up being our first recording as a three piece.
"I remember telling the guys, 'I think I am feeling inspired again. Let’s just go for it.'
"We set a target date, which ended up being February this year, and we followed through. A lot of the songwriting happened toward the end of last year and continued into January."
Jaret mentioned that he considers the 2009 album Sorry For Partying to be "the last truly great Bowling For Soup record," but he is very optimistic about what is coming next.
He said: "Some fans would probably argue and say, 'Actually, Lunch. Drunk. Love. is great as well'.
"But when I think about the last couple of albums, I sometimes feel like there were a few tracks I maybe should have left off.
"With this new record, there honestly is not a single weak track. All three of us feel like this could end up being the best Bowling For Soup album we have ever made, which feels wild to even say."
At first, the group considered putting the album out quickly, but they later decided to take more time with it.
He added: "To be honest, that idea does not really make sense since we will be touring with Frank and also heading out with Simple Plan.
"We are now thinking about releasing it in the fall or possibly even early next year. It is going to be worth the wait."
Full schedule for Bowling For Soup x Frank Turner Bowl My Bones UK Tour 2026:
June 25 Margate Dreamland
June 26 Southampton TK Maxx Presents Southampton Summer Sessions
June 27 Lincoln TK Maxx Presents Live at Lincoln Castle
June 29 Glasgow O2 Academy Glasgow
June 30 Halifax TK Maxx Presents Live at The Piece Hall
July 2 Scarborough TK Maxx Presents Scarborough Open Air Theatre
July 3 Llangollen TK Maxx Presents Live at Llangollen Pavillion
July 4 Cardiff TK Maxx Presents Depot Live at Cardiff Castle
July 5 St Austell Eden Sessions
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